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55. John Mackey: The Win Win Win Method - An Ethical Framework to Succeed in Business and Life

Ep 55. Today’s guest is John Mackey, co-founder of Whole Foods Market and a pioneer of conscious capitalism. In this powerful conversation, John shares the personal stories and hard-earned wisdom behind his newest framework, Win Win Win, and what it truly means to lead with love.

From the start, John opens the door to a deeper kind of dialogue. He shares the psychedelic awakening at age 22 that cracked open his worldview and put him on a lifelong journey to integrate business, spirituality, and service. That experience sparked a series of realizations that shaped not only how he built Whole Foods, but how he now lives his life.

At the heart of our conversation is the big idea he recently brought to the TED stage: Win Win Win. It’s a simple but transformative concept. In every interaction, how can we create something that’s good for ourselves, good for the other person, and good for the larger whole? John believes this is the path to lasting impact, and he offers the tools to make it real.

Together, we walk through the three core shifts that make Win Win Win possible. First, a shift of mind: letting go of judgment and stepping into curiosity. Then a shift of heart: opening to empathy, listening more deeply, and showing up with compassion. And finally, a shift into creativity: expanding what we believe is possible and asking again and again, what’s the most beautiful outcome we can create here?

John doesn’t just speak in ideas. He lives this work. Throughout the conversation, he brings real-life stories, surprising metaphors, and clear practices that anyone can apply. From how to navigate conflict with openness to how to lead from the heart in business negotiations, his insights are both practical and profound.

We also talk about the deeper drivers behind human behavior. Why do so many leaders chase money, fame, and power when what they really want is love? What happens when we stop trying to win at all costs and start creating environments where everyone gets to flourish? John makes the case for a new kind of leadership that begins with listening and ends in connection.

This episode is a masterclass in emotional intelligence and applied philosophy. Whether you’re a founder, a team leader, or someone just trying to build a more meaningful life, John’s message will meet you where you are. His presence is calm and clear. His vision is big and human. And his challenge to all of us is simple: practice love, every day, with everyone. No exceptions.

54. Joe Hudson: The Art of Making Great Decisions

Today's guest is Joe Hudson, one of the most sought after Executive Coaches in Silicon Valley and Founder of The Art of Accomplishment. He shares his insights into the art of making better decisions by developing emotional fluidity and living by principles. Drawing on years of experience coaching high-level leaders (including work with Sam Altman and OpenAI), Joe explores how our relationship with emotions directly impacts our decision-making clarity.

Joe reveals his approach to decision-making, emphasizing the importance of connection, wonder, and understanding the true nature of our emotional landscape. He outlines how great decisions don't come from avoiding difficult emotions or outcomes—they emerge when we welcome all possibilities and align with our deepest principles. Through captivating stories and practical frameworks like the VIEW methodology, Joe shares his core principles for effective decision-making.

Whether discussing parenting insights that transformed his relationship with emotions or exploring his vision for societal transformation, Joe offers a refreshing perspective on achievement that prioritizes enjoyment and alignment over "dirty fuel" like stress and fear. The conversation culminates in a powerful decision-making exercise: visualizing both best and worst outcomes while fully feeling all associated emotions—a practice that often reveals the clearest path forward.

Dr. Robert Glover: No More Mr. Nice Guy - How to stop people pleasing and get the love, life and connection you want.

Episode Title:

No More Mr. Nice Guy - How to stop people pleasing and get the love, life and connection you want. 

 

Guest:

Dr. Robert Glover, renowned psychotherapist, author of No More Mr. Nice Guy, and founder of Integration Nation, a men’s community fostering authentic masculinity and growth.

His Big Idea:

Authentic growth begins by breaking free from the "Nice Guy Syndrome," a deeply ingrained pattern of people-pleasing and self-sabotage rooted in toxic shame and unmet childhood needs. 

Transformation happens when men take responsibility for their needs, embrace boundaries, and cultivate relationships that foster mutual respect and genuine connection. Dr. Glover encourages men to pursue an integrated life by owning all aspects of themselves, both their light and shadow, and creating a community that empowers healthy masculinity.

Dr. Robert Glover, a leading voice in men’s personal development, shares his transformative insights on overcoming the Nice Guy Syndrome. Drawing on decades of therapeutic experience and his personal journey, Dr. Glover unpacks the origins of this syndrome and its impact on men’s relationships, careers, and overall well-being. He provides practical guidance on embracing conflict, setting boundaries, and cultivating meaningful connections that are free of manipulation and resentment.

Through engaging anecdotes, insightful theories, and actionable advice, Dr. Glover challenges men to reclaim their power by confronting their toxic shame, embracing their full selves, and stepping into the world as integrated, authentic individuals.

Key Insights:

The Roots of Nice Guy Syndrome

• The Origins of Toxic Shame: Many men internalize feelings of inadequacy and unworthiness during childhood, creating a belief that they must earn love by pleasing others and avoiding conflict.
• Covert Contracts: These unconscious "if-then" agreements—like “If I’m a good guy, I’ll be loved”—are manipulative, unsustainable, and often lead to frustration, resentment, and passive aggression.

Breaking Free from Limiting Patterns

• Releasing Shame: Men must work to uncover and release the toxic shame that fuels their need to seek external validation. Dr. Glover highlights the importance of safe spaces, like therapy and men’s groups, to facilitate this process.
• Setting Boundaries: Boundaries aren’t about controlling others—they’re about defining how we want to be treated. Masterful boundaries create space for authentic connection by inviting everyone involved into higher consciousness.

Building the Integrated Man

• Integrating All Aspects of Self: Growth happens when men accept and integrate all parts of themselves, including their vulnerabilities, fears, and even their “inner jerk.” This integration fosters authenticity and confidence.
• Cultivating Brotherhood: Men thrive when they have strong, supportive relationships with other men. Dr. Glover emphasizes the importance of mentorship, collaboration, and shared growth in fostering healthy masculinity.

 

Notable Quotes:

• “Toxic shame operates like a hidden operating system—it runs the show, but you don’t even know it’s there.”
• “Boundaries are not about pushing people away; they’re about creating space for real intimacy.”
• “I swim in a sea of love. Love rains down on me.”
• “If you want to master something, teach it.”

 

Resources Mentioned:

• Books:
  • No More Mr. Nice Guy by Dr. Robert Glover
  • The Road Less Traveled by M. Scott Peck
  • Feel the Fear and Do It Anyway by Susan Jeffers
  • Passionate Marriage by David Schnarch
  • The Way of the Superior Man by David Deida

 

Connect with Dr. Robert Glover:

• Website: drglover.com
• Community: integrationnation.net

 

Thank You for Listening!

 

How to Be a Great Coach (from one of the World’s Best Coaches)

Today’s guest is Bryan Franklin, one of the world’s top executive coaches, he shares his insights into what truly makes a great coach. Drawing on years of experience coaching high-level leaders and training the next generation of trusted advisors, Bryan explores the unique qualities and skills that allow coaches to guide their clients toward clarity, resilience, and personal evolution.

Bryan reveals his approach to impactful coaching, emphasizing the importance of love, presence, and understanding multiple perspectives. He outlines how great coaches don’t just give answers—they create conditions that allow clients to access deeper truths and discover new pathways forward. Through captivating stories and practical advice, Bryan shares his core principles for effective coaching, from crafting authentic connections to embracing the complexity of each individual’s journey.

Jonny Miller: Unlocking Peak Performance through Nervous System Mastery

Today's guest is Jonny Miller, a nervous system specialist, transformational coach and host of the Curious Humans podcast. In this episode, Jonny dives into the science and practice of nervous system regulation, sharing how this foundational skill can help individuals manage stress, increase emotional balance, and perform at their best. 

Drawing from his personal experiences and journey of growth, Jonny highlights how mastering the nervous system has been pivotal in overcoming emotional challenges and achieving mental clarity.

Jonny explains how understanding the body’s stress response - along with tools to regulate it - can have a profound impact on how we navigate life’s demands, whether in the realm of entrepreneurship, sports, or creativity. 

He breaks down the ways our nervous system impacts our ability to handle stress, recover from burnout, and build long-term resilience.

He breaks down the science behind nervous system regulation and offers practical insights on how breathwork can help anyone handle stress, recover from emotional overwhelm, and build inner strength.

Raz Ingrasci: The Hoffman Process and breaking negative patterns from childhood

In this episode, we speak with Raz Ingrasci, the Chairman of the Hoffman Institute, about the life-changing impact of the Hoffman Process. 

Andrew just completed the week long training on the day this podcast was recorded. 

With over four decades of experience in human development, Raz explains how early childhood conditioning deeply affects our adult behaviors, often leading to patterns that no longer serve us. These patterns, rooted in the need to mirror our parents to secure love and survival, are referred to as "Negative Love Syndrome."

Raz’s personal insights into the Hoffman Process and his decades-long experience working with thousands of individuals shine through as he shares practical tools for emotional healing and personal growth.

He talks about how compassion, especially toward oneself, is the bridge to deeper self-understanding and long-term behavioral transformation. For anyone interested in emotional growth or those looking to break free from limiting beliefs, this episode provides an introduction to the power of compassion-based personal development.

Raz breaks down the core of the Hoffman Process, emphasizing the importance of self-awareness, self-compassion, and healing the relationship with our parents to unlock emotional freedom.

Through practical techniques and exercises, individuals can break free from these negative patterns and begin to live more authentically.

Annie Lalla - How to create a healthy, inspiring and love-filled romantic relationship

Today's guest is Annie Lala. Annie is one of the top relationship experts and coaches on the planet. I am very fortunate to have called her my relationship coach through my 11 year marriage, my recent divorce, and now with my new partner Melissa. I would not be in the happy co-parenting relationship I currently an with Miki (my ex) without her love and support.

She is truly world class at helping people to work through really difficult challenges and conflict in their relationships. She's a master at the technical and the practical.... the rituals, communication techniques that help people to stay in love and cultivate inspiring partnerships. She's also just plain brilliant. She's able to talk about the esoteric and the mental models of love and relationship, with a fluidity and mastery that is interesting and deeply inspiring. She is one of my favorite people on the planet. She's a genius when it comes to creating and sustaining a love filled relationship. So ,whether you are already in the relationship of your dreams, or you want to build one in the future, Annie can help.

Jayson Gaddis - ”Getting to Zero” - How to master conflict resolution in your important relationships

These days, I only fire up the podcast for people who I believe to be truly world-class at what they do.

 

@jaysongaddis is one of those people.

 

His book “Getting to Zero” provides a practical framework to master conflict resolution in our important relationships.

 

Jayson offered up a ton of practical wisdom about how we can approach conflict consciously, tips for effective communication, and how to navigate the inner turmoil that challenges our personal fulfillment and growth.

 

Here are 📌4 key takeaways from our chat…

 

1. 🎯 Taking ownership: Jayson explained how approaching conflict with ‘ownership’ of actions is key to constructive outcomes. This involves stepping out of the victim mentality and acknowledging one's contribution to the situation, even when we think the other person is at fault.

 

2. 💡 Cognitive Empathy versus Feeling Felt: He shed light on the distinction between understanding someone’s feelings (cognitive empathy) and truly making them feel understood, emphasizing the latter's powerful impact in conflict resolution.

 

3. 📚 Inner Conflict Resolution: Jayson discussed the concept of inner conflict deriving from compromising our true selves for acceptance. He also provides practical outlets and practices to bring harmony to the inner and outer worlds.

 

1. LUFU - LUFU means that you make a commitment to Listen to the other person Until they Feel Understood. It is a simple way to sharpen your listening skills in high impact conversations.

 

If these snippets piqued your interest, tune into the episode for deeper insights and tips.

 

You’ll walk away from this chat with a new lens on difficult conversations. You will learn how to face conflict as an opportunity to grow personally and create deeper understanding in your important relationships.

 

Enjoy.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snbuEYtvINQ

Valter Longo - An introduction to Intermittent Fasting

Valter Longo is an Italian-American biologist and gerontologist who is a professor of gerontology and biological science at the University of Southern California. He is the director of the USC Longevity Institute and the Program on Longevity and Cancer at IFOM (FIRC Institute of Molecular Oncology) in Milan, Italy.

Longo is known for his research on the biological mechanisms of aging, and for his work on fasting-mimicking diets, which he claims can promote health and longevity. He has written several books on the subject, including "The Longevity Diet" and "The Fasting Diet".

Longo advocates for periodic fasting as a way to promote overall health and prevent disease. He believes that intermittent fasting, which involves limiting food intake to certain times of day or certain days of the week, can help reduce inflammation, improve metabolic health, and promote cellular repair and regeneration.

 

In today's episode, we focus on intermittent fasting. 

The Founder of 1800 Flowers on cultivating Human Connection in the Digital Age

Jim McCann is the business leader, author, and philanthropist who founded 1-800-Flowers.com and grew the business from its roots as a single flower shop in Manhattan into the world's largest florist. With a passion for helping people deliver smiles, Jim transformed the flower and gift marketplace to help customers express themselves and connect with the important people in their lives. 

 

Devoted to helping others, Jim founded the nonprofit organization Smile Farms to provide meaningful jobs to young adults and people with developmental disabilities. Jim also started the Connectivity Council, which brings together therapists, researchers, and thought leaders to share ideas and trends around human connection and community.